In our last episode we talked about how David started working as a contractor for 37signals making $15 an hour. He eventually worked his way up, and became an owner in the company (along with Jason Fried). In this episode we talk about he and Jason work together on a daily basis – and we go behind the scenes on their decision to rebuild Basecamp. We also talk about how he got into driving race cars (a mere 2 years after he got his license).
This is part 2 of the interview.
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“When you’re starting to build something new, it doesn’t really help to have a bunch of cooks in the kitchen.”
What are you doing now?
“We have a new product idea in mind. I’m doing the same thing I did on BCX; just me and a designer, just spiking things out. If we decide to go ahead and build it, we’ll involve more people.”
Do you just like building new stuff?
“No, I’m not just about greenfield development. I get a lot of pleasure about building things to last – I’m still working on Ruby on Rails a decade after I made the first changes. That’s still really satisfying to me. To me it’s just programming that’s fun.”
“Driving race cars is a dangerous amount of fun.”
“When I discovered Ruby, I wanted to spread the wealth – to share it with as many programmers as I could.”
“What is really interesting to me (about programming) is getting in the zone; where you lose track of time, and other concerns. That’s a rare state of mind to be in.”
Remote: Office not required (David and Jason’s new book – out October 29, 2013)